Hillary Clinton's Involvement with UFOs | John Podesta's Leaked Emails on "Fastwalkers"
Hillary Clinton had a UAP disclosure plan as part of her election campaign in 2016.
Clinton was mentioned in another rare interview from David Grusch, a widely credible whistleblower who testified to Congress in 2023 about his knowledge of secret programs, crash retrievals, “biologics”, and reprisals against himself and other whistleblowers.
Transcript from the interview below.
KELLY: And the reason that they keep it secret from everyone—including, as they point out in the piece, our own presidents over time—is what?
GRUSCH: Well, it depends on the time epoch and which administration. Certainly, there were former Secretaries of Defense and presidents that were briefed on this matter, but it depended on the level of trust that the ‘deep state’ lifers in the government had with those individuals. Unfortunately, this subject has been a victim of domestic information operations, something I discussed publicly in 2023. There has certainly been this ‘Game of Thrones’ activity with multiple factions of the deep state in a bipartisan manner; the Republicans and the Democrats are both guilty. Even in a previous administration, the Obama administration, there were certainly actions taken strategically to help a particular presidential candidate, possibly if this subject were to become normalized and they got elected president. So, there’s been a lot of gamesmanship and ‘House of Cards’ type activities in the past. But it is true that a lot of people have been withheld. I found it deeply disgusting and shocking that even I was not fully accessed into these activities, and I did have a congressionally mandated need to know.
So what does this mean? Grusch is vague when he says that “there were certainly actions taken strategically to help a particular presidential candidate, possibly if this subject were to become normalized and they got elected president”. Is this referencing something totally new, or is there a precedent for Hillary Clinton’s connection with the UAP topic?
Carefully Approaching the Clinton UAP Rabbit Hole
Hillary Clinton’s UAP interest comes from her history with John Podesta and Laurance Rockefeller. Before Podesta ran Hillary’s election campaign, he was Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff and political advisor to President Barack Obama. John Podesta was very involved in the subject.
Quote from the 2016 Vanity Fair Article Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Chairman Can’t Stop Talking About Aliens
Over the past few decades, Podesta has emerged as one of the most prominent public figures goading the Pentagon to disclose information on UFOs — or, in official channel parlance, “unidentified aerial phenomena” (UAP). In his view the report’s expected release marks a sea change in not only public sentiment, but political posturing around the issue. “There’s always been tremendous public interest in this, but it was kind of pushed to the fringe. People were viewed as a little bit goofy if they wanted to raise the topic,” he explained. “Now I think that’s changed.”
At the end of his time in Barack Obama’s administration, Podesta somewhat famously tweeted that his “biggest failure” in 2014 was not securing the release of the government’s UFO files. Similarly, during the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton’s declaration that Podesta “has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out” about UFOs and Area 51 made headlines — not to mention fodder for the late-night circuit. But the political operative’s dalliances with the unexplained, and his desire to determine what truth, exactly, is out there, have roots in his time working for Senator Patrick Leahy, a vocal proponent of declassification and the Freedom of Information Act. When he moved to the White House, Podesta was knee-deep in similar declassification efforts. He also was a member of the Commission on Protecting and Reducing Government Secrecy.
For more about the Clinton, Podesta, and Rockefeller UFO disclosure connection, I’d recommend a fantastic UAP researcher Escape Velocity who writes at Medium.com.
The Rockefeller Initiative the Kicked Off the Modern UFO Disclosure Initiative.
Hillary Clinton holding her copy of Are We Alone? with Laurance Rockefeller.
Podesta wrote the foreword in the book that started my serious study on the topic. That book was UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record, by Leslie Keane, published in 2010.
Keane was one of the authors of the famous 2017 New York Times article Glowing Auras and Black Money- the article that legitimized the concept of US government UFO programs by revealing the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
You can learn more about AATIP and the vastly more detailed program AAWSAP in my post about US government UAP programs below.
Podesta Receives Info on “Fastwalkers”
My first exposure down this particular rabbit hole was from one of today’s best UAP researchers UAP Gerb. Gerb has a channel that is a fantastic resource for US gov aerospace program intersections with UAP. In one live video on YouTube, Gerb and his guests were talking about presidential involvement with UAP, and Gerb recalled his look into Hillary Clinton.
Quote from UAP Gerb’s video.
So, yeah, I do think Hillary was trying to prop herself up as the disclosure president for her 2016 campaign in conjunction with-- Yes, that was evident from the Wikileaks emails. Podesta, Lou, AAWSAP. I think there was a coordinated effort there. Yeah. Well, we have receipts for that. Like that’s not a conspiracy. Like that’s based on like actual... Go to the Wikileaks and look at John Podesta’s emails with Bob Fish about the Defense Support Program and Fastwalker specifically.
The Fastwalker, DSP, and NORAD connection is a pretty long rabbit hole, but thankfully it’s already been charted. Below is a Reddit thread with a host of sources tha lines everything out.
The thread shows multiple emails sent to John Podesta in 2016 about UFO data kept in classified programs. These were leaked in the Podesta emails found on Wikileaks. These emails detailed Podesta’s correspondance with a military aerospace insider named Bob Fish.
Reddit Thread: Bob Fish’s Emails to John Podesta
But who is Bob Fish? And why was he talking to Podesta about “fastwalkers” and UFOs? What are “fastwalkers”, and why are they important here?
Fastwalkers- according to John Greenewald’s source from the US Air Force- is a term created by the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) to classify Unidentified Flying Objects which enter or leave the atmosphere at a great velocity and which are sometimes captured on the Defense Support Program satellite system.
Fastwalkers are NORAD’s term for UFOs that are seen travelling in and out of the atmosphere at speeds that exceed known aerospace vehicles.
And how are fastwalkers detected?

Defense Support Program (DSP)- A 1970s program consisting of satellites that detect missile launches, space launches, nuclear detonations, and other defense related actions.
These are prime examples of how UAP / UFOs cross into military aerospace operations. There’s a long and deep dive here that leads to some extraordinary insight from Fish himself that goes far beyond the national security aspects of UAP.
Link to Bob Fish’s email as read by Andy of That UFO Podcast. (The important part starts at 56:38).
The Political Elephant in the Room
If you were listening the news in 2016, you might have heard Podesta’s name was thrown around during the Pizzagate scandal. If you’re like me, you might have a difficult time detaching him from that awful story. It was the first time I heard his name, and for years his name was firmly stuck the idea of conspiracy. The same can be said about the Clintons and their long history political baggage. Regardless of value or truth, these are the kinds of repeated associations that are used to elevate, smear, or misrepresent people for a purpose. Repeating them is an incredibly effective tool for perception management. This is a fact of today’s media landscape. It’s always a good idea to acknowledge how it may bias your opinion of anyone significant.
With UAP Status, I quote a lot of politicians. I take great care to separate their character and their values from their claims. While human values often determine human behavior, there is no causal relationship between how someone behaves, and the accuracy of their claims. Truthful statements often come from unstrustworthy sources, and false or misleading statements can come from the sources you trust. When following the evidence of UAP, we are separating the messenger from the message.
Thankfully, the UAP subject still has a lot of bipartisan support in Congress. This has likely helped the topic survive since the first hearing in 2022. I have no doubt that polarizing UAP along party lines will exclude Congress from oversight, and the topic will disappear from public view.
With that being said, I’ll close with something funny I found through this Wikileaks rabbit hole. The following is an email chain between two campaign representatives discussing how Hillary Clinton will talk about UFOs on a 2015 episode of Jimmy Kimmel’s late night show.
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Betsaida Alcantara <
> balcantara@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >
>> Sara,
>> Jimmy Kimmel is planning to ask HRC about UFOs and area 51. Jimmy
>> Kimmel’s producer noted that Podesta is particularly interested in the
>> topic. The producer cited the Mother Jones story below titled “ETs for
>> Hillary: Why UFO activists are excited about Clinton presidency”, in it
>> they quote Podesta’s comments on the topic. I’m also including comments
>> Bill Clinton made on the topic. Schake thinks Podesta could help us develop
>> a fun answer to this. The memo is due at 6:30pm tonight. Let me know if you
>> can help.
>>
>> Potential Q:
>> *Two of your closest advisers Bill Clinton and John Podesta have spoken
>> out about their strong interest in UFOs and area 51. Mother Jones had an
>> article this spring titled, “ETs for Hillary: Why UFO activists are excited
>> about Clinton presidency”. Is there a reason they should be excited? Are
>> you ready to make a campaign promise to this critical constituency tonight?*
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Sara Latham <slatham@hillaryclinton.com> wrote:
> ha yes, I am v familiar with JDP's area51 and X Files obsession..... >
> the question seems odd ? is there any further context on why Jimmy is
> going down the alien road ??
>
> which skit did we agree, in the end ?
>
>
Sara Latham <slatham@hillaryclinton.com> Date: Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:59 PM Subject: Re: UFOs and Jimmy Kimmel To: Betsaida Alcantara <balcantara@hillaryclinton.com>, Kristina Schake < kschake@hillaryclinton.com>, Milia Fisher <mfisher@hillaryclinton.com
> he thinks it would be awesome and funny, if she explained that you don’t use the term UFO anymore... ‘Jimmy if you talk about UFOs, people think you’re nuts - you have to use the term, UAP - unexplained aerial phenomenon.
this is an issue I think the govt should take this more seriously the govt has been too stingy on what information we should know and when I’m President, the american people will find out !!
John’s line is - the american people can handle the truth
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